Bummer, sorry to hear that. That was a very informative site, I got to meet John, and some of the Knucklehead Company members at the 8th knuckle reunion in Milwaukee. Leave it to a few jerks to ruin a good thing. Thanks for the info. I'm glad to see some familiar names on this site, besides I'm a big fan of S&S, I knew one of the daughters in Blue Island, just before they moved to Viola, nice people.