I would not buy the repro rods that Hawgcity sells on ebay!! I bought a set about 3 years ago, and thought they were the answer to what I needed. I finally got all the parts I needed to start on my engine (39' UL), but decided to not use the bearings that came with the rods. I looked at the crankpin, (a stepped pin), and thought I might want to have my flywheels machined and use the bigger taper, non stepped pin. I especially did not like the undercut machined in the pin where the taper ends and the bearing surface begins (it looked like a weak spot to me). Also when I threaded the nuts on the pin they were both crooked!!! The shaft was threaded ok, but the the threads on the nuts were machined crooked!! thankfully I had saved my old nuts an they threaded on ok.
I then measured the outside diameter of the crankpin (it should be 1.250") it measured 1.260" .010" oversize, not .001, but .010" oversized. I the measured the races on the big end of the rods an they measured 1.635" ( it should be 1.625").
the inside diameter is .010" oversize also!
In my opinion these rods are JUNK!!! There is no way I can use a standard crankpin, or a non stepped pin with these rods.I don't think anyone sells a .010" oversize crankpin!
The only thing I can do to make these right is to get a new crankpin and put the correct races in the rods.
But, the price of the races, crankpin, bearings, cages, and labor to replace the races end up being more than the rods initially cost.
Now I could take a chance and just go with this oversized stuff, but I just don't like the way this crankpin is machined.
I emailed Hawgcity through Ebay and explained everything to them, and asked if all the rod sets were like this, or was it just this one set.
They responded, "YES, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. WE USE EITHER JIMS CRANK PIN OR EASTERN " (their exact words)
What I have is apparently Eastern, cause it has 3 oiling holes, but I wasn't sure I understood their answer. Did they mean the were all oversized, or that they were all supposed to be standard size? I don't know if there is such a thing as a .010" oversize crankpin.
So, I emailed them explaining again, and giving them the dimensions, again, and their reply was, "I'D GET A NEW CRANK PIN AND NUTS AND PUT IN NEW ROD RACES " (their exact words).
Apparently they don't give a rats ass about their customers!!
I responded that I figured that was what I had to do and that their rods were CRAP!!!
So, you can judge for your self if you want to go through all this trouble or not. As far as I am concerned these rods are scrap, cause scrapping them is what I would do with a set of old rod if the races were .010" oversize!!!!!!!
Update: Since I now do not believe a word those LIARS at Hawcity say, I decided to contact JIM'S MACH and EASTERN M/C PARTS and ask them about these oversize crankpins.( Hawgcity emailed me that they use either Jims or eastern crankpins.) Well Jims and Eastern told me they have never made any crankpins that were .010" oversize, which means Hawcity LIED, and these crankpins are probably some chinese JUNK!!!
Since I will probably upgrade my flywheels to the later non-stepped crankpin now, does anyone know of anyone who does this machining upgrade to the flywheels other than American Cycle Fab?
I wonder why S&S CYCLE,(you guys are famous for your connecting rods), does not make a set for harley UL/ULH?
I think we all would rather buy a set of S&S rods instead of this imported junk! They are making cylinders and heads. Maybe connecting rods, pistons, and flywheels in the near future? One can only hope!