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flathead1943

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Post Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:08 pm

Shifter gate

I have a long standing personal issue with my 45 shifter gate. When i engage my 2 gear ( which is real "finiky" BTW. it does not line up where it should be. I do have the correct gate for my year and i do not think adjusting the linkage rod would make a different. My 1 gear is way up against the end of gate and the second is where the neutral should be and third is way off and early as where it should normally be any ideals??? Thanks Frank
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Pa

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:15 am

Re: Shifter gate

Transmission shifter clutch shimming is out of specs....or...shifter drum has to much end play....or....shifter drum paths are worn excessively....or...shifter fork finger rollers worn....or...shifter forks worn....the list is long. May be time to overhaul the gearbox and bring it back to oem specs.
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RUBONE

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:19 am

Re: Shifter gate

Are you sure your gate is for a 45 and not a Big Twin 3 speed gate? They look similar but the notches are cut very differently!
Robbie
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flathead1943

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:37 am

Re: Shifter gate

Now i start to wonder about having the wrong gate ,i have looked at some picture online and for sure the one that 45 restoration sell, look different.Do you know if the rod (for lenght) will also be different ??? Thanks
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Pa

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Shifter gate

Here is a pic of an nos 42 wla 3 speed shift gate. There is another type but the only real difference in the this one and the other type is the tail end area away from the shfterlever paths. One has a tail and one doesn't.

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flathead1943

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:21 pm

Re: Shifter gate

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Thanks for the picture. Mine is for sure not the 47 version 1 gear being low near the rider knee. Mine looks like the sidecar/reverse version but it doesn't have the " R" stamp on it plus when my 1 gear is fully engage it basically touch the end of the gate. ??? With this picture this is pretty well where my 2 gear gets engage i'm not the sharpess knife in the drawer but i know its wrong...lolll :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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RUBONE

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:26 pm

Re: Shifter gate

Do you know if the rod (for lenght) will also be different ???

45 shifter rods only fit 45s so it is hard to have a wrong one, other than early or late. One has a clevis, the other a hook. Big twin rods don't fit. But Big Twin shift gates definitely fit the holes in the tanks! Does your three speed gate have a big blank spot forward of the #1? If so it is Big Twin.
Robbie
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RUBONE

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:27 pm

Re: Shifter gate

Yup, BT!!
Robbie
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flathead1943

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Post Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:46 pm

Re: Shifter gate

Ok problem solve. Since i will put in reverse this winter i will find the proper gate with the reverse on it Thanks again Frank
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ozihotrod

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Post Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:01 pm

Re: Shifter gate

I have the every same trouble with my 45s, it only became a problem when i put reverse into the gear box's , tried 2 different aftermarket gates from 2 suppliers, re time box for no reverse and refitted original shift gate all ok, Looks like may be the after market shifter gate settings is not in the right spot with tank mount holes.?? I have adjusted the linkage to work, ok, but 3 is 1/2 way between 2nd and 3rd. with reverse hard up against it's end.
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flathead1943

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Post Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:51 pm

Re: Shifter gate

I think I will buy one from 45 restoration out of Albany NY. I have had lots of succes with them in the past and the quality is there. My 1 choice would be a NOS but that could take a while to find . Unless someone has one in the secret drawer..lolll :) :) :) :)
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ozihotrod

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Post Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:40 am

Re: Shifter gate

I got my 2nd one from 45 parts, the gate did not even match the contour of the tank, may be the manufacturer just did a copy of the BT gate??? and just labeled as one to suit a 45, not much NOS or after market fits straight on out of the box.
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jib

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Post Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:42 am

Re: Shifter gate

have a 3 speed and reverse gate in my stash, you would need to get it rechromed . pm me. regards jib
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dalaymond

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Post Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:30 am

Re: Shifter gate

My 45 would either jump out of first gear or jump out of third gear, no matter how I adjusted the rod. So, I made the slot in the gate a little bit longer in the third gear position. Now it adjusts out and works fine.
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Cotten

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Post Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:20 pm

Re: Shifter gate

Folks,

My favorite Knuck is in a '49 chassis with '41-'46 tanks,
so the gate is backwards to the tranny.

It hasn't been a problem, as I keep my eyes on the road instead of the gate anyway.

...Cotten
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Pa

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Post Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:16 am

Re: Shifter gate

Often....the cause behind gears jumping out is the shifter drum plunger ball tension adjustment. Not always...but often.

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