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Flatskalln

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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:31 pm

Flathead.......power?

Hody!!
Posted a question about some new cylinders for a BT SV two years ago :roll: . And the word was that they should be out on the market in 6-12 months.
What happend? Those cylinders have been for sale when Anders runned Flatheadpower here in Sweden. Why isn´t it out on the market yet?
Couple of friends runns them hard here in Sweden every summer, so what´s the problem?
Sorry if i sound a little naggy, but i want new one´s. BADLY. :cry:
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helsingborg

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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:15 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

I second the question!
I think the market for UL cylinders is alive and eager to buy. Am I that wrong?
What is so difficult about producing cylinders for the big sidevalves? They are plenty available for the 45's!! What's the mystery?
Last time i heard they would be available from FHP in Davenport...
Karl.
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Pa

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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:32 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Are they listed on this page of the S&S Cycle catalog ? Link below. Pa

http://www.sscycle.com/modules/catalog/ ... atalog=%3D
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George Greer

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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:04 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Flatskalln, Profile lists your location as:

Banjoplaying farmerland, Sweden.

Where's that?

George
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Flatskalln

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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:19 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Not far from farmerplaying banjoland.... :mrgreen:

Hi Guys,

Here is where we are with the BT Flatty cylinders: Working on the tooling tweaks for the ports and are shorting for a Davenport release date. They will have valves, guides and spring pack as part of the cylinders. They will be avalible with stock intake nipples or WR intake nipples and the WR manifold will be avalible at that time also. The springs will take you to (.650") vs. stock .420".

Charlie Hadayia
S&S Cycle Inc
608-627-0292

Sorry Pa. I don´t understand the reply with the list.

I just wonder IF there´s any new release date.
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Pa

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Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:21 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

I thought I saw the cylinders in that list. :oops:
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Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:41 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

This is a question that I would also like to have answered. I have been dragging my feet for 4 years waiting for new cylinders and I am finally going to use my sleeved 11 fin cylinders. I have also asked about new rods several times with no response. I did buy new heads from S&S just to support them, but since they call themselves Flathead Power, they should get on the stick and put out some product. What was wrong with the patterns that Anders was already producing parts with?
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Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:01 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Charlie is away until after April 30th. He has be notified of these concerns and will address them as soon as he returns. Pa
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Flatskalln

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Post Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:20 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Word Woody!!
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Post Sat May 01, 2010 7:51 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

S&S usually dosen't put anything with their name on it out until all the bugs are worked out. My guess is they will be worth the wait.

I am wondering when a new and improved supply oil pump will be available. One that will handle piston squirters and not leak all the oil from the tank into the crankcase would be MOST EXCELLANT!!!!!
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FlatChief

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Post Fri May 07, 2010 5:41 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

For a new uppgraded supply oil pump look at http://www.vt-cycle.fi.
The supply pump is made in Sweden !!
They also have very nice set of high comp alu heads for BTSV with reworked
combustion chamber for better breathing/flow (see KR...).

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CharlieHadayia

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Post Fri May 07, 2010 8:07 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

Hi guys,

S&S/Flathead Power has taken a long time with the UL cyilenders. We are very close to having what we feel will be something that is worth the wait. We are working out some casting issues with the tooling and once that is to our liking the cylinders will be released for sale.

Charlie Hadayia
S&S Cycle Inc.
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jib

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Post Fri May 07, 2010 9:01 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

good looking pump shame site has no prices.

regards jib
Dude, check out that jibhead, he's crazy. Hasn't been sober for 40 years
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Post Fri May 07, 2010 8:32 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

Charlie, thanks for replying on the cylinders. Please also address the issue of connecting rods. If S&S does not want to make a 7.906" rod just for flatheads, an 8.000" rod would be better than nothing. The old rods are OK, but are getting hard to find in good condition. It is hard to justify spending several thousand dollars on an engine build using 70 year old rods.
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VPH-D

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Post Sat May 08, 2010 9:40 am

Re: Flathead.......power?

Does S&S have any plans to produce mild stroker kits and pistons for BTSVs?
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jib

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Post Sat May 08, 2010 12:10 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

how about the stroker kits for 45's with sportster rods they used to do but dont seem to any more?
regards jib
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45Brit

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Post Sat May 08, 2010 2:52 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

I looked into this when I was collecting the parts for my stroker engine project. The parts are available if you look for them.

As it happened, I bought T&O wheels and new 45 rods, plus T&O stroker pistons because I didn't feel it justified the extra cost for parts and machine shop work - but if I'd been going bigger, or building a racing engine, I would almost certainly have taken a different view
Shoot, a man could have a good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff...
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Post Sat May 08, 2010 3:56 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

i bought T&O wheels to (4 5/8) new 45 rods ,then scored some wr rods and new pin,then a set of new old stock rollers and cages ,with one roller wrong size. ..but if i could have just bought a set of wheels with rods and pin bearins etc then buit and balenced them with my pistons it would have been cheaper and less time consuming ,read not so much stress. the project still waits on the side while i decide what to do about the odd roller. damn.[ oh and i have to get out of here]
regards jib
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45Brit

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Post Sat May 08, 2010 10:51 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

getting off the original topic a bit, but...

I bought T&O wheels and the stroker pistons to match, plus WL rods, crankpins and all bearings from 45 Depot, so all new parts which ( hopefully ) should all fit together. I do have a couple of pairs of NOS pistons in various oversizes.

I wanted to minimize workshop time, and simplify building instructions as far as possible so I could use an established vintage racing engine builder rather than a "Harley Specialist" - this being the UK where such people are rare, at best - and since I'm building a reliable street engine, not a racer, I decided to keep the oil baffles.

no #1 engine has ended up having a good clean up plus new #6 heads and a top end strip-and-reassemble, since much of the work appeared to have been done a while ago. That's the engine in the bike right now. It has an Amal carb and will ( probably ) have 45 Depot electronic ignition.

Bike has a 4-speed gearbox and belt drive. Exhaust is a one-off, two-into-one, based on a suggestion in the Victory book using 45 front pipes mated to a panhead y-piece and silencer. All-up weight will be about 370lb and overall gearing will be about 20% higher than a stock 45, so I'm hoping for a genuine 75 mph and comfortable 65mph cruising.

engine no #2, different story, still under development....
Shoot, a man could have a good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff...
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Post Tue May 11, 2010 7:26 pm

Re: Flathead.......power?

FlatChief

This pump looks like something that would work. Do you know of anyone that has actually used one? Or for that matter if anyone could actually buy one from them?
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