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Huck

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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:06 pm

Sport Scout Cylinders

Anyone hear when FHP/S&S are going to get the Sport Scout Cylinders back on the market?
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panic

Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:54 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

...that would be when they can sell 100 sets at $3,000, 1000 sets at $1,000, 10,000 sets at $500... You get the picture.
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Huck

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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:22 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Well, if there are $500/pair Chief Cylinders on the market, it would seem that Sport Scout cylinders are a economic possibility seeing as they are now so scarce. One of the beauties of Sand Casting is that small runs are almost as economical as large runs. FHP did have the patterns and were producing, were the patterns that bad that they can't be re-used with a better foundry?
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zooma

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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:28 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Hey Huck
You could email S&S and ask, the more inquiries that they receive the more motivated they may be.I emailed them about eight months ago about the online catalogue.
that lists the sport scout cylinders and there availability.They said they where working on it and I believe mentioned 09 but you know how that goes.There are others working
on the sport scout cylinders also so they are coming.Holt in CA made some sets of the square base that are currently being run on some racers with good success.As Panic says
S&S probably doesn't see the volume sales they want or need .
Z
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Huck

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Post Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:12 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

I asked them about a year ago and was told February 2008

zooma wrote:Hey Huck
You could email S&S and ask, the more inquiries that they receive the more motivated they may be.I emailed them about eight months ago about the online catalogue.
that lists the sport scout cylinders and there availability.They said they where working on it and I believe mentioned 09 but you know how that goes.There are others working
on the sport scout cylinders also so they are coming.Holt in CA made some sets of the square base that are currently being run on some racers with good success.As Panic says
S&S probably doesn't see the volume sales they want or need .
Z
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tprjj49707

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Post Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:55 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

The site said Feb 2008, then June. I made several queries to FHP, they humored me like a wife for awhile, then stopped answering me altogether.
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tprjj49707

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Post Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:03 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Enfield Racing's site stated they have secured foundry gear & anticipate big base cylinders available in the second half of 2011. I know we have heard this before, but it does provide some hope. Cylinders, or the lack of same are what has brought my progress to a grinding halt. Can't balance wheels without knowing piston weights, can't buy pistons without jugs...vicious cycle.
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MOLDTHREAD

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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:59 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Hi Guys,
The cats going to be out of the bag shortly.
THE BIG BASE SPORT SCOUT CYLINDERS ARE NOW BEING OFFERED FOR SALE! It is my understanding that these cylinders will also fit the 101 Scout.
At this point we have cast 5 sets of cylinders, modified all the fixturing, and written completely new CNC programs.
They are 100% made in USA, cast in certified Grade 30 cast iron at a small foundry in Rhode Island whose owner is a past president of the American Foundry Society, stress relieved and normalized, then machined in house on our own CNC machining centers.
Every effort has been made to maintain the highest quality and to be a bolt on fit to the original parts from the Indian factory.
Actual changes from the original include slightly thicker and 1/4" larger base flange, blind holes for head bolts, with smaller and better shaped ports.
Cylinders are sold unpainted, standard bore -.003 ready to hone, valve seats and bowls roughed, ports as cast, machined for standard nipples. All other machine work completely done.
Rather than discount our parts to be able to wholesale to other sellers, we prefer to only sell direct and spend the dollar difference in making the highest quality product on the reproduction market.
To compliment these new cylinders we are having brand new forged racing pistons manufactured by Wiseco. Designed to fit standard rods they feature the Bonneville pop up, coated skirts, rings are all modern state of the art - 1 mm top, 1.2 mm second, and a 3 piece oil, top ring is gas ported. Standard bore only at this time.
We are aware of earlier cylinders manufactured from these same patterns which were not 100% correctly machined. These have “USA” cast on the outside flange of the cylinder base. We will attempt to re-machine these parts to a useable condition. Please contact us to discuss.
We have also completed the castings for Sport Scout intake manifolds which will accept the standard 3 bolt linkert, 4 bolt , or 38mm Mikuni. Just have to do the fixturing and programing.
Lastly, we have castings for the 648 Daytona Racer “BIG BASE” cases. Again they are waiting for the fixturing and CNC programing. These should be ready for sale at the end of 2011.

Sorry for the long response, but I wanted to give everyone all the information.

Bruce Argetsinger
http://www.enfieldracing.com
Bruce Argetsinger
AHRMA Dirt Track # 67J
www.enfieldracing.com
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Pa

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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:55 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Excellent Bro !!! Just plain Excellent !! :D
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Dusty-Dave

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Post Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:49 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Any idea what the price will be? What are the issues with the earlier cylinders?
Dusty
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MOLDTHREAD

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Post Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:40 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

It is against the forum rules to post prices here.
This is a link to my web page which has both prices and photos http://www.enfieldracing.com/indian_scout_17.html .
Please keep in mind that while I have not personally examined previous cylinders that had problems, I have talked to several owners.
They report that the height of the cylinders is about 1/8" too high and that the diameter of the spigot is too large.
both of these problems I should be able to correct.

All my parts will be on display at Davenport

I am now taking orders for delivery after Davenport.

Bruce Argetsinger
http://www.enfieldracing.com
Bruce Argetsinger
AHRMA Dirt Track # 67J
www.enfieldracing.com
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Dusty-Dave

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Post Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:53 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

I can't find a price on your website wouldn't have asked if I could. When I try to use the personal email link on your site it trys to install stuff on my computer which I never allow.
Dusty
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RUBONE

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Post Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:08 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Dusty-Dave,
The price is on his page. It is on the bottom of the page, keep scrolling down! It has lots of digits and zeros in it! :mrgreen:
Robbie
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MOLDTHREAD

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Post Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:19 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

I will have sample cylinders and other parts at Davenport.
Come see me at space V-10.

Bruce Argetsinger
http://www.enfieldracing.com
Bruce Argetsinger
AHRMA Dirt Track # 67J
www.enfieldracing.com
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45Brit

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Post Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:49 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

RUBONE wrote:Dusty-Dave,
The price is on his page. It is on the bottom of the page, keep scrolling down! It has lots of digits and zeros in it! :mrgreen:
Robbie


I'd say that was a realistic cost for a specialised, small-production, complex item of that nature.
Shoot, a man could have a good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff...
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MOLDTHREAD

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Post Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:37 am

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

Hi Guys,

Change of vender spaces
Warren Bennet of 45 Restoration, won't be making it to Davenport this year, so he is letting me use his space.
Look for the old Indian and Harley race parts at vendor space O-13.

See you there,
Bruce Argetsinger
http://www.enfieldracing.com
Bruce Argetsinger
AHRMA Dirt Track # 67J
www.enfieldracing.com
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tprjj49707

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Post Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:45 pm

Re: Sport Scout Cylinders

45Brit wrote:
RUBONE wrote:Dusty-Dave,
The price is on his page. It is on the bottom of the page, keep scrolling down! It has lots of digits and zeros in it! :mrgreen:
Robbie


I'd say that was a realistic cost for a specialised, small-production, complex item of that nature.



This is absolutely true...however, now I am thinking more seriously about the last set of oem cylinders "with pistons"
(one piston o/s +.20, the other +.50) for 1k, it suddenly seems more affordable.

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