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Knuckle midget racer

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Post Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:31 pm

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Location: Cedar Springs Mi USA

We are taking this to Davenport.....where it can be seen in person. Pa will post the pictures shortly.

This was built, and raced in the 40s, with a 1940 knuckle motor.

Post Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:08 pm
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Location: Ohio USA

Here ya go Tom. Awesome machine !!! Pa





Post Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:56 pm

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Location: Hudson, Florida
Knee action shocks and a live axel, looks like a blast! What are the skids on the front end for? Any brakes?

Post Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:46 am

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Location: Cedar Springs Mi USA

There's a brake on the left rear wheel....a cast aluminum brake drum, and hand lever operates it. I believe the skids are to protect the front axle from collisions.

The steering box is from a 20s Franklin automobile, the double row chain to the rear axle is driven by WR sprockets. Ford model T steering components, and american Austin auto front springs and front axle. The body is all aluminum sheet metal. Oil pressure gage is 30s Rolls-Royce.

Post Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:47 am

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Location: madison wisconsin usa
push started i assume? will look forward to seeing it in person at D port.


Post Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:13 am

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Location: Greenbackville, Virginia, USA
Neat car, Tom. REALLY cool! This was the poor man's way into racing back in the 30's and 40's. They used what they could scrounge. Later cars had ford V-8 60's, and for a rich team Offy 110's.
I don't see any model T ford components in the steering, though. A model T front axel is a beam axel and would of been narrowed for the car. It looks like model A ford spindles. Transverse springs front and rear without a transverse locator bar would of made for some interesting handling in a bumpy corner. I'm guessing that it has an in/out (one speed) transmission and/or a dog clutch?
I think those "skid" plates on the front end were early attempts at anti-nerfing bars. Nerfing in an open wheel car (getting your front wheel between another car's wheel and body) is VERY bad, usually resulting in one, or both, cars flipping. G 8)

Post Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:05 pm

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Location: Cedar Springs Mi USA

Yes, it is push start only....and that don't mean a couple guys, it takes a vehicle, or, several guys to push start it.

We had it at the Orleans Raceway track on Sunday, in Belding MI, where we had the track to ourselves for the day. the track was a 1/3 mile oval.

All I can say,'s a thrill that no amount of money can buy.

Post Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:08 pm

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Location: Nashville, TN USA

I'll bet she screams like a hooker paid with wooden nickels.

Post Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:45 pm

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Location: Los Angeles, CA
Imagine it with a Drake top end on it. Water cooled and big bore. I have seen Drake Knucklehead motors with billet steel crankcases as the torque broke the motor mounts off the aluminum cases.

Post Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:45 pm
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Location: Ohio USA

Varooooooooooooom !!!!!!!!! Compliments of Tom Faber. Pa


Post Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:43 pm

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Location: Hill City, Ks. USA

Now, that looks like LARGE fun!

Post Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:22 am
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Location: Ohio USA

Yeah.........and I resized them to boot ! You should have seen them when I first got them. I could wall paper my walls with them. Heh ??? that is a great idea ! :D Pa

Post Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:10 pm

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Very cool racer..Sounds like a blast to drive !!!!

When I was a kid, I saw a movie of "Abbot & Costello" racing a midget (that I think) was Knuck-powered too..

Post Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:23 am

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Post Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:29 am

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Location: Paris ::: France

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Post Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:06 am

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that looks like SO much fun... there used to be midget cars occasionally on speedways over here ( 1/4mile dirt tracks that is ) , very crude by comparison. Usually used 500cc JAP or Norton engines

there was also a class for road racers using the same engines, you still see them occasionally at timed hillclimbs like Goodwood and Selsey Walsh
Shoot, a man could have a good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff...

Post Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:10 am

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are the front skids just that, skids? Brooklands sidecar outfits used to carry similar fittings so that if the chair lost a wheel, the outfit wouldn't flip over. I have been told that some speedway cars were also similarly fitted
Shoot, a man could have a good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff...

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