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Post Fri Oct 20, 2000 2:50 pm

Posts: 34
Location: surrey,b.c.canada
Had a customer in the shop yesterday with a
pair of pan heads [1950]wants me to change them external oil,I said no problem
see ya in a couple of days. Here is were the
help comes in, how do I do this properly???
Thanks BigRicky

Post Sat Oct 21, 2000 2:07 am

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Been there, done that.
Ya should told him NO.
It's a stoopid idea for bunches of reasons.

Post Sat Oct 21, 2000 2:05 pm
It's a big job, if you are asking how to do it do not attempt!!

Post Sat Oct 21, 2000 10:15 pm

Posts: 34
Location: surrey,b.c.canada
I kind of figured it was more work than
what it was worth. Think I sold the guy on
a pair of new STD heads anyway.
Cotten, what pistons would you use in a
4-3/4 stroke motor with FHP barrels and heads
Thanks BigRicky

Post Sun Oct 22, 2000 2:43 am

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Geez! I'd be on this board with a few questions myself it if I were building the combination you write of. And I have yet to have the good fortune of installing any FHP cylinders, but I am looking forward to the new Sport Scout alternatives.
The first thing I would do is mock up and measure how high your wristpins travel. Then its a matter of determining from deck height
how close to a readily available piston you are.
And then figure your swept volume and cc your heads to decide if you are still under the six-to-one streetability barrier.
The pistons may be available from Anders for all I know, but I bet you will either use an S&S stroker evo piston, or an automotive one.
(I like Kaiser T-slots, but Egge is sold out of their old stock.)
Keep us posted on your progress!

Post Mon Oct 23, 2000 1:05 pm

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Alex! What advantage do you think this accomplishes?

Post Wed Oct 25, 2000 3:19 pm

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Alex! Sorry, I meant the overhead oiling (double plugging is obvious) since the factory overhead oilers really had more hassels than benefits.

Post Thu Oct 26, 2000 5:57 pm

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Alex! I've never booger'd any for double plugs, just overhead oiling (Doh!)

I would think you would want the electrode much higher in the chamber anyway. Won't a 10mm or smaller plug fit up there without intersecting the galleries? (Will it really be worth it?)

Post Sat Oct 28, 2000 2:10 pm

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Alex! I guess its all a matter of how you define "worth"!

I, too, professionally build (and 'tune')H-D engines, but only vintage ones. And since pans aren't the high-flow powerproducers that really show much benefit from such updates (flamefront ain't the limiting factor fer sure), it hardly seems 'worth' depreciating their value from "original".

Don't get me wrong, I love to booger relics, and do it for myself all of the time. But as a 'professional', I really do consider the customer's best interests. Usually they come to regret such anachronisms on a farm implement like a pan.

Post Mon Oct 30, 2000 5:34 am
Farm Implement! ouch! Lets face it dual plugging a panhead is like all of these old timers taking Viagra! Hasn't anyone told them they are still screwing 70 year old women...
Moral, What's the point!!!

Post Mon Oct 30, 2000 1:56 pm

Posts: 3010
Location: Central Illinois, USA
Alex! I think we both really come from the same point of view on this.
My customers make all of the decisions, but I like to make sure they aren't hasty ones.

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