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Post Wed Sep 20, 2000 3:17 pm

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I read somewhere, many years ago, (might have been in Easyriders), that the Army used a 4 cylinder watercooled (?) knuckle in their target drones. Later some people bought these as surplus and used them on migit racers.
Dose anybody have the story and better yet pics on this?

Post Thu Sep 21, 2000 12:04 am

Posts: 382
Location: Hill City,Kansas
I seem to recall a similar article and do recall that it was in Easyriders. I do not however recall the four cylinder version.They did some experimenting with a watercooled twin.I'm sure I have it but it would take some diging.If you could narrow down the scan and approximate the year I will dig through my collection.

Post Thu Sep 21, 2000 1:16 am

Posts: 233
Location: Ridgefield,Ct 06877
We all make mistakes, this is one I made over 25 years ago. Back then I was into pre 1940 sprint cars, and bought out a guys garage filled with stuff. I brought it home and sorted through it. There was a twin cam 16 valve D.O.GREEN on a five main block, and a car to put in. There were pieces of an old midget in the mix as well. I started to assemble a pile of midget related parts, and had the car mocked up, with the engine in place. A good friend stopped by to look at my new find, and hopped into the midget."WOW this is neat!" he said. "Give me $100.00 and it is yours" I said. I'm six foot and wouldn't fit in the car. What was it? This still hurts. It was a Pop Dryer built Harley Knucklehead powered midget, built for Bill Schindler! It also won two East Coast Chanpionships! We found this out later.It has changed hands again and is under restoration in Eastern Connecticut. You can't keep everything. I'm still looking for 1937 Harley 45 stuff.

Post Thu Sep 21, 2000 1:24 am

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Sorry Gadget, I was known to imbibe back then and was lucky to remember that much.

Post Thu Sep 21, 2000 7:45 am

Posts: 67
Location: Australia
I kinda remember Easyriders watercool knuck' twin midget car engine & a four cylinder shovel "project"!(my memory of the 70's is a little shaky in parts)Guess it's in to the attic for a research trip!

Post Thu Sep 21, 2000 12:19 pm

Posts: 382
Location: Hill City,Kansas
I can relate to the midget story .I bought a car with main bearings out and a perfect body for 20 bucks when I was sixteen and my folks made me get my money back on it.....A 57 Chevy Nomad .

Post Fri Sep 22, 2000 3:48 am

Posts: 540
Location: Kansas City, Mo USofA
As best I recall that the drones were powered by Henderson 4 cyl engines. Perhaps some of the old Indian guys can rehash this. I do know they were commonly shot down over the desert in New Mexico as target planes.

Post Fri Sep 22, 2000 11:58 am

The brits made some of their target drones with Vincent motors! Also: major F-1 race car of 1950s was the Van Wall (brit), power was Rolls-Royce military 4 cylinder crank-case with 4 Norton Manx DOHC 500cc single cylinder top ends adapted, 4 carbs & megaphones!!

Post Fri Sep 22, 2000 3:40 pm

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Eeeeeeerrr, Hotrod, where abouts in New Mexico? I live right next door.-Sparkplug

Post Sun Sep 24, 2000 9:16 am

Posts: 31
Location: Southwest-Germany

Hello Mr.Sparkplug!!!
I do have the artikel in an old issue from Easyriders.
It`a watercooled 2 cylinder that was used for
Midgetrace cars.
If interested I can scan the artikel and mail it to you

Post Mon Sep 25, 2000 1:30 am

Posts: 233
Location: Ridgefield,Ct 06877
The midget I mentioned in the above story was air cooled. There was an engine called a Karlheim or Carlheim that was used in midgets. I think it used a Harley lower end. About the drone engines, I think they used Crosley engines in them. There were two cylinder air cooled ones as well as the overhead cam four. This is a good thread,good to share all this info we've been walking around with.

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