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HOIT

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Post Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:50 am

Side car number

Is there anyone who has the information about the number on the sidecar frame from LE sidecars?
Have a number that says 38LE 101.
Is this the first sidecar produced in 1938 or the 101st?

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Chris Haynes

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Post Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:02 am

I have never seen a three digit number. My sidecar is 36LE1001.
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:35 pm

Thanks Chris
I will go out and take a close look and see if there is a 4th number.
But I am quite shure that "my" number is 38LE101...
Do you think it is a production number series or is it actually roling numbers 1001-1002-1003 etc?
Is there anyone who has some other numbers?

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Post Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:00 pm

I have seen many sidecar frames and they all have had 4-digit numbers. Never seen 3-digit numbers. My midyear '52 Pan has 52LE-1301.
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Post Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:15 am

Can you guys tell me where the sidecar framenumber is placed?
I can't find it on my '47 sidecar, maybe to many layers off paint!
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Post Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:33 pm

It is in two places. The tub had a plate screwed on to the floor. The frame has it stamped on the fore/aft crossbar in the area of the transmission.
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Post Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:26 am

Thanks a lot Chris!
Always thought the combination was as left the factory.
Now I know it's an earlier chassis.
38LEC1689
But no number whatsoever in the tub..
Righthand with metal door.
Anybody with some more info to this number?
Thanks in advance
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Post Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:23 am

Tubs with doors are 1933 and earlier.
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Post Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:24 am

LEC was a sold as a chassis and no tub.
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Post Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:12 am

Thanks again Chris!
Palmer talks about special order tubs with doors...
maybe the reason off no number in the tub?
The 1933 tubs are more in the Goulding lines look, with the pointed front...
This is a as '36-'67 style tub, but with a door.
Definitly not homemade!
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Post Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:07 pm

I am sure that if you look carefully on the floor pan you will find two small holes. This is where the serial number tag was affixed. Sometimes on the flat bottom under the seat and sometines on the flat side of the hump.
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Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:40 pm

I found 2 holes± 4" apart and 3/16"big on the bottom off the tub,next to the door....
But there is a reïnforcement running in between...maybe added later...
Thanks Chris, those are probably the holes you mentioned...but alas, no plate.
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Post Tue May 01, 2007 5:23 am

Nope, Those arent the holes. The brass tag is only 1 1/2" or so wide.
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Post Mon May 07, 2007 1:12 pm

Yeah!

I found the fourth digit on my sidecar.
My number is 38LE-2101.

Lucky me, a guy with matching engine cases and a VIN that seems to be original.
I wonder if there is someway to identify if my VIN number is originally sold with the sidecar?
Is there any deliverance dokumentaion available from 38?....
Anyone?

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Post Mon May 07, 2007 3:58 pm

That bike was originally sold with a sidecar. The long time owner had your bike and another for spares. They had sequential serial numbers. The bike was put together from the best pieces of he two. So there is no way to know which engine had that particular sidecar frame.
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Post Mon May 07, 2007 4:04 pm

Chris Haynes wrote:Tubs with doors are 1933 and earlier.


1935 V-series was the last Big Twins to utilize the old style boatnose door-equipped sidecar body.

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